RVI: Let's look at what the churches are doing about it In Our Churches – Worship Or Entertainment? Again, Mega-churches making people feel good: churches are pleasing man, not God – [Fox News 2/3/04]. And Unbelieving Born-agains How can you be an unbelieving born-againers? I'm sorry – here we go. I just want to read this too.
JVI: Unbelieving born-againers. Baloney!
RVI: Jack, I'm going to have to go very, very quickly on this – this is research by George Barna and he says 26% of born again people or say they are born again who believe that a life of good works will enable them to get into heaven true?
JVI: Wrong. Even the Vatican in 1998 signed an agreement with the Lutheran world federation that we are not saved by works and conceded Martin Luther was right. Titus 3:5 says: “Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy He saved us by the washing and regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit. To him that works not but believes on Christ who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
RVI: He also says 35 percent of the born again Christians do not believe that Jesus rose from the grave physically.
JVI: They are what I Thessalonians 4:13 describes as ignorant brethren, if I can call them brothers or sisters. You can't get to Heaven without the Resurrection. I don't care what you believe. This is what you must believe. And the Bible says in Romans 10:9 that “If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus and shall believe in thy heart that God hath raised Him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.” If you dont believe it, you are not born again. I Corinthians 15:1 says, I declare unto the gospel, the good news what is it. The good news how that Christ died and was buried and hallelujah, he rose again the third day according to the scriptures. Get in the book.
RVI: Jack, this is a big shocker. Over 52% of the ones who say they are born again do not believe that the Holy Spirit is a living entity and say He is not a person.
JVI: That's why they are not born again. Why? It is the Holy Spirit that produces the new birth. Jesus said in John 3:5, “Except a man be born of water and the Holy Spirit he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is of the flesh is flesh, and that of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that you must be born again. It's through the Holy Spirit and it is the Holy Spirit that wrote this book, II Peter 1:21. And Jesus said in John 14:28: “When the Holy Spirit comes, He will teach you all things.” No wonder you don't know anything and call yourself born again. But you are not, and you will be surprised on Judgment Day.
RVI: It just dawned on me, probably the reason that some of these people are saying these things, they are not taught really what the Bible teaches. If you don't want to believe these things, they you don't have to call yourself a Christian, you don't have to call yourself born again.
JVI: And they are going to churched that have nothing but plays and nonsense instead of the Word of God to teach them what is right and wrong.
RVI: And Jack, this next one is no surprise, 39% of them believe that it is acceptable for couples to live together before being married. How about the Bible? What does it have to say?
JVI: They call themselves born again. They are no more born again than a flea on a dog's back. I will tell you why. The Bible says marriage is honorable and the bed undefiled in marriage. Outside of marriage, adulterers, God will judge, Hebrews 13:4. They have misinterpreted Daniel 2:49. It speaks about the three Hebrew children who lived for god. Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego. They think that said, my shack, your shack or a bungalow, or my shack, your shack, and to bed we go. You cannot meet god that way. God let 23,000 fornicators die in one day in I Corinthians 10:8 because they thought they could have one night stands and live together without a marriage license. They thought God didn't care, but He does. I Corinthians 6:9-10, Galatians 5:19-21, Ephesians 5 verses 3-8 and I've said it over and over. Im repeating these verses. They say you cannot live that way and meet God. So get a real born again experience through the Holy Spirit and walk in the Spirit that you don't believe is a person, and you will not fulfill the lusts of your flesh, Galatians 5:16. if any man be in Christ, he is a new creation he does an about face. Get the real thing.